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« Reply #45 on: March 31, 2004, 03:14:43 PM » |
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hp/litre is the standard of comparison in the industry, otherwise the carbon fiber buggati quad turbo would be hailed, or like a lotus elise.
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« Reply #45 on: March 31, 2004, 03:14:43 PM » |
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« Reply #46 on: March 31, 2004, 03:26:45 PM » |
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well i dont hear anyone saying the S2k is better then the Lotus or the Bugatti
all im saying is the NSX is Honda's flagship of N/A production race car. and hp/liter is not how a race car is determined, but the hp/lb as that will tell how fast the car will be, in track ET
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« Reply #47 on: March 31, 2004, 09:44:07 PM » |
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well i dont hear anyone saying the S2k is better then the Lotus or the Bugatti I don't hear anyone saying that either! Lotus > Honda, Bugatti > Honda. Just because you have a nice car doesn't mean it is the car that ends all cars. Old boy is entitled to his opinion not to like your car. I don't think S2000s are all that either. And as Silver stated, I don't see an "R" version of it driving around anywhere..... |
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« Reply #48 on: March 31, 2004, 11:23:10 PM » |
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dont get me wrong i like S2k's as much as the next guy. i just dont think they are the great production car honda has out right now.
yea and well you dont see NSX Type R's everywhere either :wink:
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« Reply #49 on: March 31, 2004, 11:35:41 PM » |
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Greatest production NA hp/litre to date. UNDENIABLE TRUTH. Theres no opinion, thats raw fact, i wasnt saying its the best car out there, im saying its got the best hp/litre, one of the key things sochiro honda had in mind when making hondas.
And frankly, if you can honestly say you wouldnt like to drive an S2000, as a crx owner, i find that to be pretty bullshit. Im not asking for praise, im just saying, if you had to choose, any logical person would know the easy choice.
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« Reply #50 on: April 01, 2004, 06:13:58 AM » |
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but hp/liter is a standard for fuel/power efficiency. all sports car are measured by their power to weight as that is how fast the car truely is. i think of the S2k as more of a replacement for the prelude with more sports car thrown in.
and i never said i didnt like S2000's, or wouldnt want to own one
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« Reply #51 on: April 01, 2004, 07:55:33 AM » |
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exactly, efficiency, what the founder of the company sought to have, i didnt claim it to be the better sports car, i just said it best embodied sochiro honda's vision of what a honda should be.
Graduated prelude? Pure nonsense, look solely to the s200 of a long time ago for the cars roots and purpose.
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« Reply #52 on: April 01, 2004, 08:50:30 AM » |
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Greatest production NA hp/litre to date. UNDENIABLE TRUTH. Theres no opinion, thats raw fact, i wasnt saying its the best car out there, im saying its got the best hp/litre, one of the key things sochiro honda had in mind when making hondas.
I only car about horsepower at the wheels. Your motor may look nice on paper but I would take a 2000 Camero SS over a 2005 S2000 anyday. Graduated prelude? Pure nonsense, look solely to the s200 of a long time ago for the cars roots and purpose Funny how the Prelude's death occured the same year as the S2000's release. From a marketing standpoint, it is a graduated Prelude. The S2000s purpose was to give fleeting customers a superior product that created brand enthusiasm, and a car that generated more revenue for the company. The net result? The introduction of new buyers to the Honda brand, and the retention of older buyers who would have otherwise left the brand for something else. Cliff notes version: 1. I don't care about HP per liter, I only care about wheel HP. 2. Honda made your S2000 to make more money. |
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« Reply #53 on: April 01, 2004, 10:05:15 AM » |
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Ok, prelude had no connection to the S2000.
How does mid level performance coupe turn into a high level performance roadster convert? It doesnt.
You want to talk about wheel horsepower how about your bring the SR or whatever you got, if you wanted to do it right for whp youd have an RB.
Cliffnotes (cont)
-no prelude connection
-your slow
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« Reply #54 on: April 01, 2004, 11:37:05 AM » |
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You want to talk about wheel horsepower how about your bring the SR or whatever you got, if you wanted to do it right for whp youd have an RB.
i typically don't get into flame wars... but you dissed someone's car without knowing what state of tune it is currently in. an s13 with a sr20det in it, is far from slow... quite frankly, it has a more useful powerband when comparing a stock sr20det with no intercooler, to the 2L F20. anyway ib4tl... this thread got way off topic. :crazy: |
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« Reply #55 on: April 02, 2004, 09:23:47 AM » |
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You want to talk about wheel horsepower how about your bring the SR or whatever you got, if you wanted to do it right for whp youd have an RB.
You do realize that SR swapped S13s are capable of low 13s on the stock turbo don't you? BTW, since I'm "doing it right for whp" I've gone internal on the motor. A built SR meets my needs. While an RB would have far more potential, the SR counters in lighter weight, parts avalibility, and adeqate (for me) horsepower capability. i typically don't get into flame wars... but you dissed someone's car without knowing what state of tune it is currently in. an s13 with a sr20det in it, is far from slow... quite frankly, it has a more useful powerband when comparing a stock sr20det with no intercooler, to the 2L F20. Thanks for the support man! You hit the nail on the head! :wink: :mrgreen: Hey Sol, why don't you swap a moded out RB26DETT into your S2000? That way you can brag how much WHP your car makes instead of your OEM horsepower per liter. :lol: But enough of this petty pandering! Goldie post up more information on your turbo setup. Turbo CRXs are yummy!  |
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« Reply #56 on: April 02, 2004, 09:44:32 AM » |
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But enough of this petty pandering! Goldie post up more information on your turbo setup. Turbo CRXs are yummy! :werd: They rock! :headbang: |
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« Reply #57 on: April 02, 2004, 03:33:42 PM » |
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Hey guys not to sound like an ass ( :roll: ) but Spec unlocked the thread for me so I can update, so if you guys can keep the arguing to a minimum, I'd really appreciate it. I want to update with pics so I can have this later on as a memorandum ;P Got some new parts ;P GM 3 bar map sensor w/pigtail (time to boost higher than 10psi!):  Vacuum manifold, more bling, less rats nest, stronger vacuum impulse/response:    Fittings:  Think I found my manifold. Waiting for the guy to get back to me this weekend. :mrgreen: |
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« Reply #58 on: April 02, 2004, 03:40:07 PM » |
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who's vaccum manifold is that? looks a lot like golden eagle without the logo
and how much did the pig tail and the sensor cost?
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« Reply #59 on: April 02, 2004, 04:04:03 PM » |
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It's a www.mcmaster.com manifold. I can get you the part #s for the mani and fittings if you want. It came out to about $21 altogether  The sensor and pigtail came out to about $90 shipped from http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/I'm pretty sure www.camp1320.com sells it for like $65. Not sure if that's with pigtail or without. |
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