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sxy_rexi
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« on: October 17, 2003, 04:37:15 PM »

okay its about time I start posting here and everything. im doing some research to find out options.
if I go ahead with a b16 I was thinking about going turbo.

I wanted to know from you guys if you knew of web addys and or prices for CARB EO turbo kits and also turbochargers.
im looking at a nice average of price, reliabilty, quality, carbeo, and hp gains
Id like some extra hp but I dont need to be going through the roof.
hp is not the biggest thing on my list. id like it to last and be fairly decent with hp gains.

also what are the pros and cons of a turbo vs. a turbo charger?
 I intend to do a lot of reading seeing as when it comes down to it I know very lil about turbos etc. ive always been an NA type of girl and going Forced is a lil scary!!! ease it in slow!
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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2003, 04:46:15 PM »

a turbo and turbo charger are the same thing, unless your thinking of a supercharger. then they are similar but also different.

a supercharger is a pulley/belt driven device that is what i would consider a basic bolt on. they are very good power generators and also yield no lag, as soon as the engine is spinning its making power, an the faster you spin it the more power you get, within reason. only downside to the supercharger is that its robbing power to make the power, and in a 4 cylinder any power you can conserve is a good thing. in the end the only advantage is that you can gain a good amount of power from it, they are reasonably priced and there is no lag with them.

turbos on the other hand are what you looking for if you want to make serious power. they rely on the exhasut gases to spin a turbine that is connected to another turbine via a shaft and while the exhaust gas is pushing out its not sucking air into the intake side. the downside to this is that it often takes a good amount of power to get the turbine to start spinning and then to make it spin faster. so thats where boost lag comes from.

for the money i would say you should go with a supercharger, your not looking to make serious amounts of power and this will get you into the low 13's and maybe high 12's with the B16. and i think there are more CARB legal supercharger kits then turbo kits.

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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2003, 02:24:06 AM »

but that wonderful sound the turbo makes!

how much cheaper do you really think it is.
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2003, 07:42:04 PM »

If you are looking for carb e.o. turbo kits, I would look into getting a greddy kit.  Food for thought, supercharged  B series sound pretty mean as well!  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2003, 03:15:46 PM »

stay NA if you like dependability
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2003, 04:23:30 PM »

NA is nice, but mad expensive if you want the same power as a turbo...you're looking at $5-6g's NA compared to a $3g turbo setup. with a b16, the GReddy turbo is a really nice kit, even though it's kind of expensive. RevHard is also a really sweet turbo kit for the b16

as for a supercharger, i don't know many people who have done the b16 crx swap and supercharged it...there isnt a whole lot of room for the supercharger. the only ones i have seen with my own eyes have cut out part of the firewall to fit it properly.
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2003, 12:05:34 AM »

shit. yea I cant be tearing up my firewall.
and I figure if I dont go too much on the boost it w ould be more reliable than building the shit out of NA motor.
at least id figure it comes out about the same.


is revhard carb eo?
or is greddy the only one really?
I was thinkin about greddy from the start dunno why.

but im not set on it. if I can find something thats good and carb eo for cheaper ill take it
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2003, 04:34:17 AM »

i thought greddy was the only carb legal turbo kit, although there was someone on H-T selling the greddy turbo kit stickers with whatever you wanted printed on them so that you could really use the greddy carb legalities for any turbo kit.
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2003, 05:01:40 AM »

found the guy selling the greddy stickers, the pic links dont work but you can contact the guy about them

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=460537&page=4
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2003, 06:40:24 PM »

first of all, whoever told you or that other guy that you need to cut out the firewall to put in a supercharger for a crx b16a swap is full of shit. I did it in my 91' crx si and all I had to do was remove my heater control valve bracket and move it over like an inch or two.  No problem.  It takes some shoe horning but it gets in there and no firewall modification is remotly close to being needed.  I asume your talking about the J/R blower because the vortec or comptec mount in the front of the engine bay.  If your seriously looking at this kind of swap email back and I'll gladly break it down for you.  Trist me if you have any kind of mechanical ability, it's not very hard.
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2003, 04:32:28 PM »

I definately have mechanical ability Cheesy

i dunno I love the sound of turbo. just dont know if I can do the price.

side by side with the whole kit what do you think each would run
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2003, 01:34:12 AM »

hey man turbo is cheaper and better not alot of stress on the motor trust me :wink: i have a link here u go get u goin. http://www.groupbuycenter.com/buy.aspx?id=12890
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2003, 07:36:08 PM »

as good as the rev hard kits are they arent carb legal, and you need carb legal to pass the inspection in cali
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2003, 08:53:29 AM »

screw that, get it inspected than install the RH kit. revhard turbo kits > greddy turbo kits.

and in the long run, NA motors tend to cost more, for less power, and are harder on the bearings and other moving parts of the engine.
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2003, 09:58:19 PM »

Quote from: "super-rex"
first of all, whoever told you or that other guy that you need to cut out the firewall to put in a supercharger for a crx b16a swap is full of shit.

And whatever moron wrote this is obviously illiterate and wound up WAY to fucking tight. That's a good job posting on a web forum and making yourself look like a total fucking douchebag from the start...

Quote from: "Masta Shark"
i don't know many people who have done the b16 crx swap and supercharged it...there isnt a whole lot of room for the supercharger. the only ones i have seen with my own eyes have cut out part of the firewall to fit it properly.




revhard is definitely a nicer kit....
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