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« on: October 15, 2003, 08:41:35 PM » |
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i am new here and i have a 88 honda crx si well i am thinking of doing a b16a engine swap or getting a 1.8 liter vtec engine and using it instead but whick would be the best engine to tubocharge the stock 1.6 or the b16a or a 1.8liter vtec and how much would it cost also what kinda of quater mile times would i be able to achive with it
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« on: October 15, 2003, 08:41:35 PM » |
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silverkorn
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2003, 10:05:21 PM » |
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well turbo a stock d series is very risking since the rods are so thin. the b series have thicker rods and you have a higher chance of cracking a sleeve then cracking a rod. you can run about 17psi on the stock bottom end of a b series when your out to the track but thats with good tuning.
the difference between the b16 and say a b18b is merely the compression. the b16 has a better R/S ratio thus less sideways motion and less likely to crack a sleeve but has higher compression so the tuning window is much smaller. most people turbo the b18a/b due to their lower stock compression which leaves a larger room for error when tuning the engine.
what it all comes down to is how much money your willing to spend and how fast you want to go.
Speed, Realibity, and Cost - you can only choose two
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theebluecrx
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2003, 08:01:13 AM » |
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Turbo the d series.if it blows swap it out the motors are cheap.i turboed my zc and will never go back.
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sxy_rexi
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2003, 04:04:54 PM » |
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I pick speed and reliability
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2003, 07:11:03 PM » |
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I pick speed and reliability
:wink: Gonna be exxxpensssive.... |
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sxy_rexi
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2003, 09:48:12 PM » |
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nope you dork. you only have to pick 2. out of speed, reliabilty and cost you can have speed and cost reliability and cost i pick speed and reliability..... ie no cost involved... cause that would be picking 3 things  |
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silverkorn
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2003, 11:35:56 PM » |
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your not following it
cost meaning not having to spend much money, not how much you would spend
so you choose two and the third your missing out on. so if you choose speed and reliabilty its going to cost you the most.
there are 10 kinds of people who understand binary. people who do and people who dont.
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sxy_rexi
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2003, 05:18:52 AM » |
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i understand that shit. i was making a joke. makes more sense my way. you said pick two. so I did. you didnt say I HAD to include cost or anythin. so I want a fast reliable turbo with no cost included  |
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silverkorn
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2003, 01:04:06 PM » |
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yea and i want R34 but i doubt we will get what we want :bawling:
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91siredrex
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2003, 06:29:03 PM » |
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turbo an ls
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SICK_BOOST
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2004, 01:45:57 PM » |
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Iagree with going with the ls, theres no sense in getting a v-tec engine when you bypass the v-tec anyhow
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silverkorn
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2004, 08:13:17 AM » |
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why would you bypass the VTEC?
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hondastaR
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2004, 10:04:00 AM » |
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Iagree with going with the ls, theres no sense in getting a v-tec engine when you bypass the v-tec anyhow :? |
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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2004, 04:36:23 PM » |
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I was told that when turboing a vtec engine you should bypass the vtec with the elimination cams in order to be able to get higher boost...... this sounds right to me, on the basis that it would be eisier to control fuel and boost without the sudden amount of air and fuel produced from VTEC.. with no VTEC you would get a better power curve with better bottom end.. saying that you could produce more boost at lower rpm's with the bigger cam
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silverkorn
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2004, 06:37:43 PM » |
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yes and no
your right on people wanting to "by-pass" VTEC to make more power but they do that for a smoother power curve since the VTEC cams were designed to allow for moderate power at the lower rpm's for better fuel consumption.
but thats not to say with proper tuning that you can make a lot of power while still using VTEC. MotorMatrix in FL for example were putting 600hp to the wheels with 23psi on a GSR still using the VTEC. the power curve jumped about 150hp when VTEC kicked in.
the way i look at it is that if your not seriously competing in drag racing then you shouldnt worry too much about getting a very quick spool. if your turbo takes to lets say 6k to reach full boost then for the first 5k rpms your now able to get traction. and for a street car getting traction off the start can be a difficult task to do if your not running slicks all the time and have a welded diff.
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